Profile[edit | edit source]
Background[edit | edit source]
As a child he was taught to fight with the Bo Staff under the weapons instructor Kai. After Kai disappeared unexpectedly one day, he trained himself and become proficient.
At some point in his childhood he was abducted by bandits and was saved by Gremio. During the battle Gremio was struck on his face leaving an 'X' shaped scar on his left cheek.
Upon reaching adulthood, Tir was drafted into the Royal Guards by his father.
Appearance[edit | edit source]
Tir appears to have short black hair (brown in his portrait icon in Suikoden II) with a green bandana on his head with violet and green ends. He wears a red sleeveless Chinese manchurian style qipao over a white shirt, with matching tan pants and gloves, has shins on his ankle as he wears black Chinese toe shoes.
In Suikoden II, although three years have passed, Tir's appearance remained unchanged as commented by many characters in the game. This is because he bears a True Rune.
Personality[edit | edit source]
Tir appears as a calm and serious person and mostly quiet as the silent protagonist. Tir is calm and serious as the leader of the Liberation Army against Emperor Barbarossa. He prefers not to speak about the pain he feels inside and only the ones close to him could understand. Tir is concerned with the well being of those around him. Being the bearer of the Soul Eater rune, he did not want anyone to meet the same fate as Odessa Silverberg, Teo McDohl, Ted and nearly, Gremio who lost their lives because of the rune. So he chose to wander with Gremio avoiding any contact with people most especially the members of the Liberation Army for their sake.
He befriends Riou, the hero from Suikoden II after Ko distracts Gremio to meet him in Banner Village and during the battle against the monster butterfly, he aids him using their final spell of their true runes together to annihilate the beast. He shares the role as the silent protagonist with Riou.
Story[edit | edit source]
Suikoden I[edit | edit source]
In Suikoden, Tir McDohl is the son of Teo McDohl, and finally entering the ranks of the Royal Guard in the Scarlet Moon Empire. Tir begins his military career under the command of the corrupt Commander Kraze, accompanied by his guardians: Gremio, Pahn, and Cleo; as well as his best friend Ted. Tir is first tasked with travelling to the Magician's Island and receiving the astrological predictions from the Seer Leknaat. Leknaat senses a heavy destiny is about to come upon Tir and tells him words of comfort.
On his second mission, Tir and his entourage are joined by the selfish and greedy Kanaan and tasked with going to Rockland to speak with its magistrate, Grady, to discover why the taxes haven't been paid on time. Tir discovers Rockland to be a poor, downtrodden village, but Grady convinces the group that the Seifu Bandits, led by Varkas, had stolen the tax money and then asks the group to capture them. On their journey through Mt. Seifu, the party is attacked by a powerful monster that they can't overcome, so Ted is forced to reveal that he bears a powerful rune and defeats the beast, awakening Kanaan's notice and suspicion. Upon finally reaching the bandits, Varkas claims that Grady has been stealing the money for himself, but the party still defeats him, captures the bandits and then turns them over to Grady. When they return to Gregminster, Kanaan reports to Kraze about Ted, and he's asked to stay behind while the party leaves. Later, Ted returns with a terrible magical wound, and Tir and the others discover that Ted is being pursued by the Court Magician Windy for his True Rune: the Soul Eater. Desperate to keep it out of Windy's hands, Ted passes the rune onto Tir. Unfortunatley, Pahn has betrayed them in order to keep the peace, so the Imperial Guard come to retrieve Ted. Thus, Tir and his companions are forced to flee the McDohl manor and hide in Marie's Inn.
Trying to escape from the city without being noticed, the party attracts the attention of Viktor, who helps them escape from the capital and takes them to meet Odessa Silverberg, the leader of the Liberation Army, in Lenankamp. Torn between joining the liberation movement and simply hiding out, hoping to return to the empire someday, Tir decides to help the liberation movement right some of his past mistakes by rescuing Varkas and Sydonia from Grady in Rockland. Odessa takes a liking to Tir and asks him to accompany her to Sarady to deliver the plans for the Fire Spear. Odessa opens up to Tir about her fears and struggles during the journey. When they return to the hideout in Lenankamp, thet find that it has been attacked by the Imperial Army. Odessa is mortally wounded in the struggle and asks Tir to deliver her earring to a man named Mathiu in Seika and dispose of her body. Fulfilling her wishes, Tir meets with Odessa's brother Mathiu and convinces him to help the liberation movement, with Tir becoming the new leader. After setting up base in the abandoned naval base of Lake Toran Castle, Tir begins to unite the various rebel factions and lead victories over the the Five Great Generals, whom each reveal that Windy is the true culprit behind the throne.
During the war, Tir loses his longtime friend and guardian, Gremio, who sacrifices himself to save Tir and company from Milich Oppenheimer's Spores of Agony. He is eventually forced to face his father, Teo McDohl, in open combat, and kills him in a duel. His father is proud of his son's accomplishments and blesses his choice before he dies. His soul is consumed by the Soul Eater. Later, when traveling to get the Star Dragon Sword to defeat Neclord, Tir and his companions are thrown into the past, where they bear witness to the destruction of Ted's hometown of the Village of the Hidden Rune at the hands of Windy, Neclord, and Yuber. Unable to help the young Ted, whom had become the new bearer of the Soul Eater, they encourage him and return to the present time. At Seek Valley, Tir is confronted by Windy, who has brought a brainwashed version of Ted to retrieve the Soul Eater from him. Fighting against the Conqueror Rune, Ted instead orders the Soul Eater, which still recognizes him as his master, to devour his own soul. Windy is forced to retreat with her plan thwarted.
Finally, after defeating and recruiting Sonya Shulen, Tir is able to attack the imperial capital. His army scouts reveal that Windy has summoned a horde of monsters to back up the imperial army. Tir attempts to use the Soul Eater to destroy the army, but is stopped by Leknaat, who combines her Back Gate Rune with Joshua's Dragon Rune to send the monsters back to the World of Emptiness. The Liberation Army attacks Gregminster and Tir faces off with the Golden Emperor Barbarosa, who uses his Sovereign Rune to transform into a powerful Golden Hydra. With Barbarosa defeated, Windy tries one more time to take the Soul Eater from Tir, but is stopped by the souls of those whom the rune has consumed throughout the story. Barbarosa reveals his feelings to Windy and then jumps off his balcony, with her in his arms, to their presumed deaths. The palace begins to collapse, and Tir and the others escape, with Viktor and Flik staying behind to cover Tir's escape. With the empire toppled, the Toran Republic is established with Tir expected to become it's first president. Instead, he declined the throne and left the nation along with Gremio.
Suikoden II[edit | edit source]
After the Toran Liberation Army defeated the Scarlet Moon Empire, Tir McDohl left without taking a position of leadership within the newly formed Toran Republic. He has been traveling with his servant, Gremio. He is found by Riou in the small fishing village of Banner. Wishing to meet him, Riou is talked into an elaborate scenario by the young child Ko, who pretends to be captured by bandits to get the attention of Tir's guardian. Unfortunately, Ko really gets captured by bandits and Riou and Tir join forces to rescue him. Their reputation has the bandits easily scared, but they reveal that a monster attacked them shortly after capturing Ko and fled. Riou and Tir battle the monster butterfly and, just as things seemed hopeless, their True Runes combined and easily destroyed the monster. Ko is badly poisoned, and Tir suggests they take him to the Toran Republic to be treated by the master physician Liukan. Tir's return to the Toran Republic is met with great fanfare, but he refuses Lepant's offer of the presidency. After Ko's recovery, Tir decided to stay behind in Gregminster, but will join Riou when asked. Following the Dunan Unification War and the formation of the Dunan Republic, it is assumed that Tir, along with Gremio, continued their journey.
Role in the Game[edit | edit source]
Because of his status as the Hero of Suikoden, Tir is technically the first character to "join" your party at the very beginning of the game. Tir cannot be removed from the party.
As Tir is a required member of the party at all times, it helps that he's a well balanced character, with above average stats. His attack rating raises well and he gains a moderate magician's power in rune spells. His Unite Attack with Kai is very good against dealing with large forces, and his Soul Eater Rune is excellent due to it's powerful instant death magic and incredible offensive spells.
Weapon Type: Bo Staff
Weapon Range: M
Weapon Starting Level: 1
|Name||Wolf Fang Staff||Dragon Fang Staff||Heaven Fang Staff|
|Starting Equipment||Best Equipment|
|Other 1||Gloves||Power Gloves|
|Other 2||Boots||Earth Boots|
Location: Banner Village & Gregminster
After the defeat of Luca Blight, McDohl can be seen in Banner Village. In order for him to be available, a save data from Suikoden with (or without) all 108 stars recruited and alive, saved after the Gregminster army battle, has to be loaded on a new game. Complete the quest and he will be available to join the party in his house in Gregminster. He will not appear in the member select screen, a trip to Gregminster needs to be taken each time in order to add him to the party.
McDohl is a well balanced fighter and mage, and his Soul Eater rune is well worth the trip to Gregminster to recruit him for missions. His stats allow him to be used for either as a powerful mage or a strong fighter, his flexibility makes him a great asset and his stats are comparable to Riou.
Weapon Type: Bo Staff
Weapon Range: M
Weapon Starting Level: Note: McDohl retains his Fang Staff.
|Name||Wolf Fang Staff||Dragon Fang Staff||Heavenly Fang Staff|
- Head - Available upon recruitment
- Right Hand - Soul Eater (Permanent)
- Left Hand - Available upon recruitment
- Weapon - No Rune attached.
While the Soul Eater permanently takes up the Right hand slot, McDohl can effectively use another magic rune or ability enhancing runes. There are no other runes that he is singularly fitted to, but the open rune slots leave room for customization. His stats, are above average across the board so he is effective as either a mage build or as a melee fighter. His high affinity with Darkness and Water makes the Flowing Rune and Pale Gate Rune good choices for magic, or a Fury Rune, Killer Rune, or Double Strike Rune for melee.
|Starting Equipment||Best Equipment|
|Helmet||*Same as the Suikoden I Save*||Wind Hat|
|Armor||*Same as the Suikoden I Save*||Master Garb|
|Other 1||Obento x6||Magic Ring|
|Other 2||Guard Ring||Skill Ring|
|Other 3||Winged Boots||Winged Boots|
McDohl can't be part of any War Battle.
Richmond can't investigate McDohl.
McDohl cannot be a judge.
There is a glitch concerning McDohl's name when transferring data from a Suikoden I file. It only transfers capital letters and symbols from the save data and then uses it to replace a letter from the default name. So if you named him "Tir" in Suikoden I, he'll be called "TcDohl" in Suikoden II. If you named him "MASTER" in Suikoden I, he'll be called "MASTER" in Suikoden II.
Other Appearances[edit | edit source]
Suikoden II[edit | edit source]
In Suikoden II, Tir McDohl is simply known as "McDohl", and can be a playable character if a Suikoden I save state was transferred. If the player loads a save file with the 108 Stars of Destiny recruited in Suikoden I, Gremio will also appear, if not, Ellie will take his place at the Banner Village events.
Aside from the bonuses gained when loading Suikoden I save files on Suikoden II, McDohl will still be referencied and mentioned by other characters, even if the player didn't load Suikoden I save data.
For example, when talking to Lepant, he references McDohl in his dialogue to Riou:
- Lepant: "Hmmm... You are much like him. I may be the president of the Toran Republic, but there's a young man who should be sitting on this throne. He led tens of thousands of soldiers into battle and finally brought peace to our land. I see the same glimmer in your eyes that I did in his. You too represent the hopes and desires of all those who would follow you.
McDohl also has a memorial room in Gregminster Palace, with a replica of his staff and outfit, alongside with a stone bust with his likeness, to celebrate his heroic deeds.
Genso Suikogaiden Vol.2[edit | edit source]
Tir McDohl only appears if you load a Genso Suikogaiden Vol. 1 save which should contain a Suikoden II data loaded on it, which, at last, should contain a Suikoden save data loaded on it as well.
Tir, along with Kasumi, makes a brief appearance when Nash Latkje, Meg, and Millie were being teleported around at random by Viki's sneezes. Nash's group just observed from afar, as Meg protests for him to not interfere.
On the location, Tir was fishing when he got interrupted by Kasumi, and both started a lightweight talk, which leaded to Kasumi asking Tir if it's a heavy burden to live with the Soul Eater. Tir then proceeds to tell Kasumi about Ted, and how he got the rune. After that, he invites her for dinner, and both depart.
Nash asked the girls if they knew them, and Meg and Viki said yes, with Viki revealing that Kasumi has a huge crush on Tir.
Cameo Appearance[edit | edit source]
- Konami Wai Wai Sokoban - Tir appears as a playable character.
- Mitsumete Knight R - Tir makes a cameo in one of the stickers along with other Konami characters.
- Pro Baseball Spirits A - Tir appears as a supporting character during an event.
Trivia[edit | edit source]
- Tir McDohl is tied with Riou and Razro as the most recurring Tenkai Stars in the series; all being present in 3 Suikoden games.
- Tir is called Louie in the Suikoden I Mangas.
- The head gear and Body gear equipement Tir have equipped at the final save point in Gregminster, and then transferring the save data to Suikoden II, will allow him to start with said equipment when you recruit him during the Banner Village sidequest.
- In Suikoden II, if you bring a Former Member of the Liberation Army (Like Viki, Tai Ho, Clive, Viktor, etc) for the meeting with him at Banner Village, each one them will have something different to say, like shown in this video.
- After you defeat the final boss in Suikoden II, Riou can still walk around the world map. This includes recruiting Tir in your party.
- Masamune, Piisuke, and Schtolteheim Reinbach IV are the names the player may choose to be his fake name in Suikoden.
- In Suikoden III, if you choose Hugo, another teenager warrior, as the leader of your Army, Luc will state that Hugo's eyes and position reminds him of someone he once deposited his hopes on a long time ago. This dialog isn't present for Chris or Geddoe, meaning that he could be talking about Tir, or as well Riou.
- In Suikoden V, Prince Freyjadour Falenas wore clothes similar to Tir's when he had the need to disguise himself.
- Bring him to Tinto in Suikoden II. When Nanami & Riou decide to run away, he will be one of the two that join Riou's party. He will also "speak" his first words. As you run away, he will "speak" more. After the Beast Rune is defeated, he has a chance of speaking in the throne room.
- His starting money in Suikoden is 1000 bits.
- His name means:
- In Old Persian, Tir means "an arrow."
- In Hindi, Tir means "arrow or bolt".
- In Proto-Dravidian, Tir means "turn, roll, twist, change shape"
- In Welsh, Tir means "earth".
- His name can be romanized into three:
- Tyr of the norse mythology, which is a god of war. Like Ares (Greek mythology)
- Tir or Tiur of Armenian mythology, which is the mercurial god of wisdom, culture, and science; messenger of the gods. He is identified as Apollo in Greek and Roman mythology, as well as he is related Hermes.
- Tir could come from Old Iranian to refer to an astral deity.
- In Suikoden II, if the player carries over Suikoden save data and gives Riou the same name they gave McDohl, Gremio will mention that they have the same name.
References[edit | edit source]
|SUIKOGAIDEN Vol. 2|
|Maki • Camus • Miklotov • Lo Wen • Gijimu • Koyu • Rina • Eilie • Bolgan • Lena • Bright • Futch • Humphrey • Meg • Millie • Gadget • Bonaparte • Viki • Julie|
|Clad • Gilbert • Aisha • Jonah • Butz • Tony • Tony's Daughter • Yuzu • Valeria • Anita • Apple • Sheena • Oulan • Milich • Vincent • Esmeralda • Simone • Lorelai • Killey • Riou • Jowy • Nanami • Kasumi • Tir • Viki • Abizboah • Rulodia • Chuchura • Sasarai • Dominguez|
|Clant • Parge • Wang • Stella • Zaj|
|Caleria • Clotteo Church • Crystal Valley • Marid • Milit|
|Flame Champion • Music List • Returning Characters • Exclusive Characters • Characters Name|